Lovely Links: December 25

Learn about the rise of the Flapper. (Via Yum and Yuk.)

Has anyone taken a peek at the discussion about Jessica’s Code of Comments over at What I Wore? I’m curious to hear what you all think of some of her reader assertions.

One of these models is “plus sized.” Or so they tell me. (Interesting commentary on this editorial here.)

Spot-on fashion travel tips for anyone planning a visit to a warm clime.

If, like me, you’re waiting eagerly for the post-Christmas sales, might I suggest you sign up for Shop It To Me? Still convinced it’s the best service of its kind.

Apparently, I have been slurping on the Kool-Aid, since I thrifted a pair of genuine Swedish clogs last weekend. What do you think of how the designers have been styling clogs for Spring? Or are you still too focused on keeping warm?

I am absolutely enamored of this J.Crew bracelet. In black, of course.

Not entirely sure how I missed Jen Loves Kev all this time … or Second Skin. So many amazing blogs out there, kittens.

The Fashionable Academics want to know, do you consider yourself a fashionista?

Star Wars + Addidas = Superfantastico
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You’ll never go without lipgloss again. Sephora is installing vending machines at six major airports, and eventually in a few malls nationwide.

Now THAT’S a killer sampler.

The top ten reasons that women need women.

For the remaining holiday shindigs, a guide to indulging without overindulging.

What Would a Nerd wear proves to me that brogues CAN be cute on a gal. I had my doubts.

Winona imparts some truly fantastic advice for anyone with a closetful of clothes and nothing to wear.

And from the Department of Random, I laughed and agreed with this dissection of Counting Crows’ appalling cover of “Big Yellow Taxi,” and nodded vigorously at most of their top 50 worst of the decade. You?

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  • La Historiadora de Moda

    Oh my gosh! I just came over to see if you did an outfit post this evening, and saw that you included my post in your lovely links. I am tremendously honored, Sal!

  • Courtney

    Thanks for the link to the Crystal Renn spread. She's just amazing. I love how much personality she brings to those shots. I found this link to another editorial about that spread. It points out that either Renn has lost a lot of weight since her appearance in Harper's Bazaar Australia last May or she was severely airbrushed (or both.)

  • Fashion Therapist

    Thank you for posting about What I Wore. I saw that post and honestly was slightly offended, not only as a reader, but a blogger too. I think we (all bloggers) know that unless you approve all your readers, you're open to criticism one way or another. Afterall, it is the internet. I honestly, used to read her blog more often, but I just felt like it was getting a little too much for me – and this post just confirmed it.

  • All Women Stalker

    Oh my, look at the comments on Jessica's blog. Tsk tsk. I kinda agree with her.

    -meream

  • The Raisin Girl

    I peeked over at at What I Wore, and I kind of thought her comment policy did sound like a mandate for a vanity parade. Nobody likes to hear negative feedback, and she has every right to nix it on her blog comments…but it's not a policy likely to attract a very good readership.

    That so-called plus sized model was deeply disturbing. No wonder I grew up thinking I was fat. I was a size 12.

    I absolutely loved that perky boobies sampler, and the closet cleanout post. Especially since I am currently at that "all these clothes and nothing to wear" juncture.

    Sadly, I can't agree with the writer on "Big Yellow Taxi." I read the review, and it sounded like a bad case of "this is NOT the song I grew up with, so it's bad." My attitude towards that argument is usually to get over it. Covers aren't always bad, and the whole point of a cover is to make it your own. That's like complaining that I look an edgy vintage dress from the 80s and made it trendy for my generation. If that's what I wanted to do, what's wrong with it? You're not wearing it, I am. This reviewer doesn't have to listen to the song, but I still want to, and I don't want to get put in a bad-taste generational box because of it.

  • Oranges And Apples

    Thank you for the link to the What I Wore comments discussion! I read almost all of it and was surprised by the high quality of the comments in the thread.

    This actually sits very nicely with a post on the importance of criticism that has been floating around my head for a while, so I'll save me views for then.

  • Alli

    I actually unsubscribed from What I Wore following that post. I've found the blog less and less inspirational lately, and had been thinking about unsubscribing anyway. I've never posted anything negative or critical on a fashion blog and don't think I ever would, but the commenting policy rubbed me the wrong way.

  • Annie

    I agree with Jessica about blogging etiquette but I don't think she handled the issue well. In fact, it bothers me a lot that she chose to post about that instead of thanking all of her fans for their support! Especially because she recently asked her readers for suggestions about a dress she could wear for her birthday. She received a lot of input, lots of links, and failed to thank anyone for their input. I think she focused on one or two people who said something she didn't like and chose to be offended publicly. While I agree with her on principle, guidelines about etiquette are important and useful, and I also think that standing up for oneself is important, the execution was a big fail. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. That's what I appreciate about your blog – you are so gracious and kind and make everyone feel welcome. She seems to have lost her way a little, and possibly some readers as well.

  • La Historiadora de Moda

    I wanted to think about the code of conduct a little bit more before I commented about it. Obviously, no one likes to hear criticism, and I've been lucky enough to get mostly positive comments on my outfit posts. However, one of the things that frustrates me is how little dialogue tends to happen in the comments on my blog (as well as many other style blogs). I'm guilty of the same kind of comments at times, but I really like it when people actually answer the questions that I ask in a post and not just tell me that they like my shoes.

    Oh, and as Annie said, one of the great things about your blog is how welcoming it is and how it does foster a sense of community. I love that you respond to comments and that you thank people.

  • Laura

    I haven't read What I Wore for several months now, and that post, with ensuing comment controversy, is why.

  • Sal

    Thanks for all these thoughtful and thought-provoking comments about … well, comments. I'm curious: How do you guys feel about personal style blogs/outfit blogs that just don't allow ANY comments? Sea of Shoes no longer allows them, and I have no idea if it's diminished/alienated her readership or not. Are you interested in outfit posts because you like to express opinions on them, or can they just be eye candy?

    I feel like telling your audience that they can only say nice things about you is most unwise. But didn't Jessica's blog have NO comments for ages? (I'm relatively new to her, and will admit to being a bit stymied by her navigation system, so maybe that's wrong.)

  • La Historiadora de Moda

    Well, I'm pretty chatty, so I comment. I fail to see the point of having a blog and a readership if you don't want comments. I can understand censoring comments that are racist, homophobic, profane, or spam-filled, but the truth is not all of our endeavors are going to make people want to give us puppies and flowers. While I try to never be overly critical or snarky in comments on outfit posts, I do always try to be honest. I also try to answer questions in the text of blog posts. I feel like some people treat blog posts as picture books where they can just look at the pictures and not have to read the content and as an academic that drives me bonkers….

    I can't really answer your question about when she enabled comments. I haven't spent much time on WIW, though. The first time I visited a few months ago, I felt like it was too corporate, and that it was more of a website than a blog. It's her site and she has a right to choose, but it's not the choice I would make.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Sal, I'm going to repeat the same things about how off putting the What I Wore code of comments where. I feel the same way as many and I no longer read her blog.
    As for blogs without comments, I think it does hurt the readership a bit because the sense of community is not able to develop. I've heard about Sea of Shoes and checked it out a few times, but don't read it regularly. I comment regularly on your blogs and other blogs, such as Academichic, and I enjoy that some of my comments have become the basis of new posts. It helps to foster the sense of community and makes the blog feel like an interactive, not a one-sided, project.
    Happy Holidays everyone!

  • Laura

    I don't have any expectation that a style blogger will enable comments, I suppose because I don't have the expectation that blogging is a two-way street. I can see that some bloggers get a real charge out of interaction with their readers, and some just use it as a catalogue of their outfits or favorite fashion trends. I don't know the story about why Sea of Shoes disabled comments, but it hasn't stopped me from checking it out periodically. The thing with Jessica is that it started out as a personal thing and then clearly became a business. That, plus the fact that she has seemed more and more enamored of herself, turned me off. Then when she gets justifiably called out for some inconsistencies in her thinking, gets huffy. Bad form.

  • Angie Muresan

    Sal, what a surprise this blog is. I love it! It's like gossiping with favorite girlfriends far into the night over endless glasses of wine.
    Thank you for linking to mine!

  • Lady Smaggle

    Thanks for link my lover! xxx

    As for Sea of Shoes… it hasn't made any difference to me as a reader because she had too many comments anyway. If I see a post that has 200 plus comments all saying the same thing I don't feel that there's any reason for me to add anything. I don't think any insightful discussions ever took place over there. It wasn't the place for it. Her blog serves a wonderful eye candy purpose but I agree that comments don't add anything to her blog.

    Blogs like ours are a little different though because we create discussions and ask questions. Not having comments on our blogs would be… really weird.

  • Kelly

    A beauty product vending machine? Genius. Especially at an airport.

    In the comment discussion…I have been turned off by WIW for a lot of the same reasons other people mentioned. I tend toward blogs that are more "hey, I like clothes, you like clothes, let's be pals!" than "hey I'm awesome and here's why." Even when she added comments it didn't feel like much of a community. Maybe I'm reading her wrong (it wouldn't be the first time, especially online) but…that's the vibe I got and I unsubscribed when I realized I hadn't clicked through from my reader in a LONG time.

  • JennyB

    * Apparently I don't understand what "plus sized" means. I'm tall and slim now. I've been tall and fat in the past. I'm not someone who pretends that being 50 or 100 pounds overweight is just "curvy." When I was 100 pounds overweight I was fat. It didn't stop me from being fashionable, but I didn't try to fool myself about my size either.

    With that in mind, I honestly don't see what is plus sized about the model named Crystal in those pictures. I looked and looked and the main difference I saw between the two models was that one looked like a child or young teen and the other looked like someone who has completed puberty. I don't think either is wrong or better or more "real" or anything of the sort. I don't know anything about modeling and am just shocked to think that the model named Crystal could be relegated to specialized assignments because of her size. Wow. I'm sheltered I guess!

    * I also read some of the discussion about the code of comments. I think it's amusing that someone would have a blog where they post photos of themselves as their business and then tell people not to say that they don't like something about an outfit because it's mean and hurts their feelings! I can understand moderating out things that are really ugly or hateful but other than that, I figure that if you put yourself out there you take the good and the bad of it.

    * I'm ok with clogs…

    * Ah, the eternal, undending struggle to pare down to or build up to the perfect wardrobe. It seems I'm always doing either or both!

  • Erin

    Here's what I commented over at What I Wore…
    Wow. I find this whole thing really disappointing…and not because of you, Jess. I can't believe anyone would assert that it's their right to criticize you—because there's a difference between criticizing and critiquing. Saying "I wouldn't have thought to pair that scarf with this outfit; what makes this look work for you?" is really different than "Your outfit is cute, but that scarf has got to go."

    I get what you're saying. It's about a community, and if you're inviting us into this community—like it was your home—it is so rude for anyone to think they can treat you however they want as long as you're busy entertaining them. For free.

    You deserve to profit from your success. You don't ask anything of your readers except to refrain from taking a stab at you for all the world to see. I think many people are overlooking your last point, which was EMAIL ME if you have a problem or want to discuss something further.

    All that being said, I hope this hasn't rattled your self-confidence. You're smart, you're creative, and don't forget it.

  • Suzanne

    Like many others, I am turned off my WIW for a number of reasons. But I disagree that a for-profit business, based on a personal style blog, is in any way like a "home." Nor is feedback, criticism or critique (I still don't understand how you make that distinction, Erin) or any discussion about a chosen public persona (we are not actually commenting on Jessica Schroeder, but rather a representative of that person that she creates, carefully monitors, and constructs as part of a business to make a living and money) the same as going up to a private citizen and making comments about their outfit. They're not fitting analogies. I felt a strong connection in the past to the blog, but like many others, I don't like being yelled at or scolded for engaging in a discussion. It's cool that other people supported WIW's Code of Comments. I guess it's just different strokes or something like that.
    I do enjoy Sal's blog, which I think encourages positive body image and displays her outfits in a way that helps me learn about fashion in an open environment. Keep up the great work.

  • Anonymous

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    I agree with the poster that said this. I love reading blog comments because there are often good ideas there! A different way to wear a scarf, where to buy those shoes for a good price, or a smart idea about colors… Saying "nothing but positive comments" rules out suggestions that other readers might find helpful and makes the blogger into the end-all-be-all of fashion advice. Ick.

  • Erin

    I guess I just read those "rules" differently than most everyone else. I'm absolutely not saying that discussion should be nixed, but she is an individual, real person who puts her physical self out there creatively, and I don't have a problem with her saying "please don't be mean to me." And if you're put off, then don't go back, and she can create whatever kind of community she wants.

    The funny thing is, I hardly ever read her blog at all.

    The other thing is, the majority of bloggers don't make a lot of money or sustain a business through their blogs. And even the ones who do still offer up their content for free.

    We sure do expect a lot from each other as bloggers. You're all right in saying that a blog is a community. And if WIW doesn't want people being rude to her in her community, that's her prerogative. I honestly didn't get "you can only tell me I'm awesome and pretty" from her code.

    @ Suzanne— Re: the "home" analogy, I was directly quoting a commenter on WIW's post who said that a blog is like inviting people into your home, and you should be more concerned with making the party fun than censoring your guests. And to me there's a big difference between critique and criticism.

    In my distinction, critique is a thoughtful commentary of an opinion, while criticism cuts off discussion with negative, one-way commentary. As I said, disagreeing with WIW's choices and asking her what her inspiration was is quite different from telling her, point blank, "you look bad."

    Perhaps she made a mistake by putting "email me if you want to discuss something" as her last point, because few people mention that part.

  • Erin

    And so I'm not quoting without sources, here's the comment I was referencing…

    "As far as I can tell, your code only involves protecting your feelings and your personal experience. See what I'm getting at here? You are the hostess, we are your visitors. Is the intention of the site to please the hostess, or are you here to provide an inspiring, educational environment for your visitors? It's like throwing a party at your house and then lecturing your guests on how to treat you in your home, rather than welcoming everyone inside and trying to make the party fun."

  • jenloveskev

    I know I am a little late here, but thank you for mentioning my blog! It really means a lot!
    Have a great day!

  • Audi

    The What I Wore list bothers me as a blogger. Anyone who can't take a little criticism shouldn't be posting their outfits on the internet. Sure, I'd delete a comment if it was downright insulting or offensive, but I'm certainly open to people who stop by offering different opinions, even when they happen to be about something I'm wearing. Readers shouldn't have to censor what they write so as not to hurt someone's fragile ego; a blog is essentially a public forum after all.

    Also, that review of Big Yellow Taxi was highlarious! I've always hated that cover and the writer nailed every single reason why.

  • Alfalfa

    I thought WIW was a little odd for posting the original message about the strict commenting, but this follow-up has definitely left a sour taste in my mouth.

    I adore Sal's blog because she actually encourages discussion in her comments.